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AI? (Friendly and Malicious)

odinfan1

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i like the idea of AI survivors and if available community's that can become over run if left alone for to long
 

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You need normal AI animals and people, these will be hungry,
it will rip at your heart when you see a 4 year old eaten in-front of you
by a crazy mad zombie. You will either have to FEEL or FLEE!

Makes for a more interesting interaction.

I would help a man on the floor, would you not, AI or NOT.
It might be a real human your helping.

Your actions will come back to you, in this world and the others.
 
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i like the idea of AI survivors and if available community's that can become over run if left alone for to long
Like, you meet a friendly survivor AI and give him some food, a week later he's found 4, 5 friends and they come take the rest of your food? That'd teach you to be an a**hole pretty quickly XD

Exactly.
 
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You guys forget the walking dead cast, woman with 2 chained zombies used to carry her load.
They are useful, never miss an opportunity for improvement in your life, get a zombie pet.

You can use DEAD people you know, just ask pals of mine Burke & Hare from Edinburgh.
 

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Aint no body got time fo dat
 

odinfan1

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Like, you meet a friendly survivor AI and give him some food, a week later he's found 4, 5 friends and they come take the rest of your food? That'd teach you to be an a**hole pretty quickly XD



Exactly.
interesting idea, but the way i meant ti is you trade with them and just leave and they become zombie chow
 
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AI is okay if done right, in my opinion. If anything I don't want a bunch of static bots who's sole purpose in life is 'junk trader' or 'healer', just sitting in their pre-designated shelter waiting to sell you exactly what you need - too one dimensional and convenient.

That said, the ideas posted here are excellent. I too dislike playing with pc's over npc's at times, because as much as people gripe that AI's aren't realistic, neither are players. It's very few players who actually imagine what the given scenario would be like, and almost everyone exaggerates how they'd respond. I am not a commando, I do know how to use firearms, I am physically out of shape. Uh oh, but there are never fat pc's!

If my overweight butt was really in this game world I would be actively trying to find other people constantly - who the hell would put effort into killing everyone else only to succeed and die alone? This is an endemic problem with survival gamers. The introduction of AI doesn't suspend believability, it introduces humanity! Real people wouldn't act the way some overweight mid-30's gamer does in these games, and that's sadly why we need AI's - to emulate real people.
 
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Very well thought out and discussed... However, I think AI in this game would, in the end, ruin immersion and do not like that...
 

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I know that the developers have already touched on the possibility on adding NPC's to the game in future builds. However they make no mention on what type of NPC's they will add, weather they will be wandering bands of raiders, other survives, or people in need of your help.

I believe specific settlements of different factions of people in different parts of the map, might prove to be an interesting aspect to ad to the game in a future build. Groups of survivors that you could help in return for resources or a safe place to stay; Trading outposts where you could trade excess ammunition or food for medical supplies; Raiders/cannibal camps, can be cleared to increase your favour among survivor settlements, but at a cost to your mental state.

I know that this is not a clear cut idea, and might not be the road in which the developers wish to follow. But it might make for a more living world, right now the game has a large world with a survival aspect, but I don't believe there is enough going on within the world to keep people hooked.

I am also still holding out that they will change there mind on their current stance for a single player option for the game, and that you will not have rent your own server if you wish for a more solo experience. And adding the features of settlements will perhaps make the multiplayer and hopefully future single player experience more rewarding and diverse.
 
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If they roamed and made there own bases, that would be cool. and if you got to close they would either talk to you or attack you depending on how much gear or people they have.
 

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i would not hold my breath for an AI NPC feature ..... my money says 'it won't be added in' .....
 

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i would not hold my breath for an AI NPC feature ..... my money says 'it won't be added in' .....
Or if it is it's likely way off on the back burner until core features are fully fleshed out and working as intended, although I do like the idea.
 

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Or if it is it's likely way off on the back burner until core features are fully fleshed out and working as intended, although I do like the idea.

i can see this as a feature for a single player mode ..... which is also way off, if ever .....

but for multiplayer purposes i think it would be better if players could become the traders, mercs., etc., by way of kits / classes / skills etc.

i wonder if you could code an AI NPC Trader in single player, and then, take [some of] that coding, tweak it, then apply it to a Player Class / Kit in multiplayer ..... or the reverse in this case
 

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This is my first post and I hate it to be a suggestion, but it is what it is. I think the game has a lot of potential, and I am really trying not to get too hyped and impulsively buy the game, but right now, I could easily forget about Dead Matter and give up on DayZ if there are complex static NPCs and human AI system in place.
The static NPC could be awesome for implementing lore/story, quests, reputation system, and camps where you could rent a house/container/storage. In the camp you can exchange low tier items for other low tier items with a trader that as a very low stock of bad condition items. Traders could have a dynamic stock, so they could run out of items to trade over time. At night, no possibility to exchange, or to interact with as many NPCs because they are sleeping. Not only are static NPC good for making the world alive and immersive, it is a good feature for solo players and those that like PVE content. From my experience, online survival-shooter games focus too much on PVP and group play. I love the mental health system, but I think adding even more PvE content can only help shifting the focus away from PVP and group play. In fact, adding some NPCs with quests such as daily/weekly/monthly tasks and reward you with good items could provide another way then looting town after town, or kill player after player to get stuff: imagine a static NPCs that dynamically spawn in random locations, like in a house, or a forest camp. When you get close to them or when your interact with them, you can read/hear a short story: "zombies got inside my house, they broke my leg and one of them bit me...please bring me my gun so i won't turn into one of them, in exchange you can have this cooking pot". Stupid story/quest/item to exchange, but just so you get the idea.
I am a bit hesitant with roaming AI, but I could also see a fun feature when implementing rare groups of bandits and/or cannibals (killing them would impact your mental state as someone suggested before). Or even better but more complex: a late game event that activates after some time, after a quest, or after accumulating certain items for different quests. The event is as follow: a group of cannibals hording player bases and/or NPC camps. Players need to gather as much of their stuff, and access the bunker before a blizzard destroys everything and kills everyone outside.
I am not a developer, so I don't know what is possible with the engine the devs are using for their game. I don't know anything about coding/scripting/networking/optimization and all that kind of stuff. I just know that it is the kind of things I see in other games, and I also believe the futur of online survival-shooter game is there. It's like when there was a change from base building to base fortification in the genre. Static NPCs and human AI is the futur in this genre because they will balance the gameplay in general and move the focus away from PVP games that is best for groups of players composed mostly of no life.
 
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I think the game will be quite good with another years work. I should really try it soon been a while.
 
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